Canon wise, Anakin wins until Luke gets better feats. Un jour, alors qu'il a neuf ans, trois étrangers entrèrent dans le magasin dans lequel il travaillait : Qui-Gon Jinn, Jar Jar Binks et Padmé Amidala, qui se masquait alors sous le n… … Pretty clear he means only someone as powerful as himself can tame the Son and Daughter on the same neutral Force Nexus they have access to. Vader and Luke were equal. and round two Anakin wins easily!!! I've never claimed feats are "unworthy." he also trained with many other jedi of the order, and even took lessons from grand master yoda himself(just like luke) on top of this, he learned how to adapt his style over the years to deal with a multitude of enemies(droids, humans, force sensitives, even sith Lords) and literally has a Decade of experience in the clone wars on top of his training by some of the best jedi. I didn't ask for feats. VİDEO SAYFASI. Anakin has fought and beaten many Lightsaber duelist and masters. so how can you determine who is better without comparing their feats and capabilities. But what I'm say is that there are discussions of making Old Man Rex into being present on the Battle of Endor as well as actually being on-screen in ROTJ by officially labeling him as the same Rebel Trooper seen in the picture and in the scene where Han Solo tricks a Scout Trooper into chasing him into his rebel squad. You just seem incapable of understanding my point (again). the only context was Obi Wan telling Anakin to tap into the same Force Nexus the force beings were manipulating since their arrival, and the context of the Father forcing Anakin to go all out by putting his friends in danger. This is the context some fans simply dont like. Il devient chevalier Jedi après avoir été formé par Obi-Wan Kenobi et Yoda. It makes perfect sense. Pretty clear Obi Wan is mentioning to Anakin to tap into the same Force Nexus as the children have. the 2 fights vs Count Dookubest character ever Christopher Leetwo of the best and most saying scenesJust DEW IT and subscribe Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. @azronger: ignoring feats and a record of wins vs establish duelist is not a debate point. His swordsman ship is slow and not incredibly effective, so he needed more skill with the force to survive. In Return of the Jedi Vader and Luke were equals. 1 Histoire 2 Arbre généalogique 3 Apparitions 4 Sources 5 Notes et références Le fils de Shmi Skywalker, Anakin Skywalker, grandit en tant qu'esclave sur Tatooine.1 Après le départ d'Anakin avec le Jedi Qui-Gon Jinn, Shmi fut libérée par Cliegg Lars qu'elle épousa. Luke Skywalker (portrayed by Mark Hamill) is the brother of Leia Organa, the brother-in-law of Han Solo, the uncle of Ben Solo, the son of Anakin Skywalker and Padmé Amidala, and the grandson of Shmi Skywalker. He's more experienced, more training, more and better feats. Ses membres regroupent l'ensemble des descendants et ancêtres d'Anakin Skywalker. Anakin Skywalker is a Human Jedi Knight and the Chosen One destined to bring balance to the Force. its no doubt to anybody here that anakin obviously got the better side of the jedi training. I'm sure he had more skill times potential as Anakin than as Vader (canon-wise; his feats in the EU show that he grew substantially more powerful as Vader, whereas, in Rebels, he got stalemated by Ahsoka Tano), and that he only lost to Obi-Wan because he was reckless and overconfident. Anakin Skywalker vs Luke Skywalker is a bonus episode of ZackAttackX's One Minute Melees and his ninth collab with ZombieSlayer23. Pendant l'une d'elles, la Prêtresse de la Force Sérénitélui annonça qu'il y aurait un autre Skywalker, prédisant ainsi la naissance de Luke et de sa sœur jumelle Leia. 19 years later, he encountered former Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi(Under the alias "Ben Kenobi") and joined the Rebel Alliance to bring down the Galactic Empire. Up until ROTJ he mostly fought some storm troopers and trained with 2 Aged Jedi masters that are well past their prime. @citizensentry: Yes and no, Captain Rex is in the Clone Wars and he did side with the rebels but I don't ever remember him pledging his allegiance to him, so it more than likely happens further down the line. Pendant la Guerre des Clones, le Grand Maître Yoda entreprit une mission périlleuse afin de percer les secrets de l'immortalité et de la réincarnation de l'esprit. After that incident of Mustafar , Vader lost the most amount of his force and physical abilities. so now, we have stated our side of the argument, it is now up to YOU to state why you think Luke is superior. Use it." 4:52. Son périple le mena notamment sur la planète Sith Moraband où il dut affronter plusieurs visions du futur. Anakin twice shown to be able to blow through Dooku's Force defenses. and train all his life just to duel Vader and Vader alone really. Très jeune, il devint pilote de modules de course, des véhicules extrêmement rapides et dangereux. Oh, you dont care for proof of why Anakin rekts. They could have A New Hope Luke and then Anakin or Vader Stomps. I'm hoping someone competent could make an actual case for Anakin. @jedixman@the_imperator@juiceboks@deathstroke19@The_Deathstroker@jacthripper. @naturallygifted: Yes, I know all about that. Anakin Skywalker est un jeune chevalier Jedi, qui deviendra le Sith Dark Vador (Darth Vader en anglais). Il est le personnage principal des deux premières trilogies de la saga Star Wars.C’est le père de Luke Skywalker et de Leia Organa.Il était destiné à devenir « l’élu » car il avait un taux surnaturel de Midi-chloriens et devait apporter la paix dans la galaxie . anakin would take it hands down. Based on what this shows it would seem Anakin was stronger than Vader. so Round 1 - definitely Anakin wins. @azronger: He had 14 years' worth of training, while Luke only had 4. he had well over a decade of training/practice/ dueling and even fought in a war on a scale that dwarfs anything the rebellion could produce. Luke has poor dueling skills through ANH-ESB, and train all his life just to duel Vader and Vader alone really. LEGO Star Wars TFA All Anakin Skywalker, Luke Skywalker (Episode IV) Abilities & How to Unlock. so lets hear in detail why you think Luke would beat RotS anakin and give us a chance to sit here and endlessly ask you, "but why". I would lean towards Luke 6/10 but could easily be Anakin for the same slight majority. Vader vs Master Luke, Master Luke wins. Anakin may be the Chosen One, but can he survive a match against his successor! So other than fighting a holding back Vader, what has ROTJ Luke done in his history to say he is a good duelist? Vader vs Movie Luke, we know that Luke wins in the end, but I think that Vader had the potential to win if he really opened up with the force. Anakin moving over 100+ tons of Separatist Dreadnought ship into a path of missiles. Define "poor." he was trained by the best, when they were at their best. His slow movement I always attributed to production value. he also trained with many other jedi of the order, and even took lessons from grand master yoda himself(just like luke) on top of this, he learned how to adapt his style over the years to deal with a multitude of enemies(droids, humans, force sensitives, even sith Lords) and literally has a Decade of experience in the clone wars on top of his training by some of the best jedi. In his prime, Anakin was probably the best saber duelist after Mace Windu, Yoda, and Sidious. And to be clear round 2 is not gm luke, its jedi master luke who was still weaker and inexperienced from rots Anakin. it allows him to master his own technique and continuously increase his own skill level against other skilled opponents. Most of lukes training was for the sole purpose of taking on Vader. Let’s say that by time travel Luke travels back and faces his father when they are the same age and he is still a Jedi. I've never heard Luke specifically trained for the sole purpose of defeating Darth Vader. Vader was weaker after his dip in lava dude. Didn't they already make that happen during the Clone Wars cartoon? Who cares if Luke held back? Sign Up for free (or Log In if you already have an account) to be able to post messages, change how messages are displayed, and view media in posts. http://comicvine.gamespot.com/star-wars-universe/4015-57038/forums/anakin-skywalker-respect-thread-updated-1639459/. Luke was also able to use Battle Meditation, a rare ability that boosted morale of allies and decreased it from enemies. Cade was able to revive the dead by using the so-called Dark transfer. I dont, and there is ZERO evidence other than one out of date source from a comic that says otherwise. The way I see it, you can simply say that Luke already wins cause he beat Vader who is Anakin. How does any of that make him more skilled than Luke? anakin was trained by obi wan(the same guy who trained luke) but for almost a decade longer then luke did. If Luke was just some random vader would have destroyed him and vader is way weaker than anakin was, Luke could take on vader and anakin if it's eu. in the long run, Luke far eclipses his father in skill and power and becomes a better jedi then anakin ever would have, but with these 2 current versions? ? So the context here again is this. Now, Vader is a whole other person. @silver2467: I thought Rouge One Darth Vader has very quick burst speed until he was injured once again. Anakin has much more combat experience and MUCH better training. Mobil Oyun Tv. Round 1 - Anakin. For example, simply saying "Anakin beat Dooku" doesn't prove he can beat Luke without further elaborating as to why. @noah_ouellette: Why are you replying to an OP from almost 4 years ago lol. But between the two of us I think I got the cooler stick (swing it!)! Now, the whole Anakin/Vader difference. Shmi Skywalker était une humaine originaire de Tatooine, une planète de la Bordure Extérieure. SirFizzWhizz here didn't even manage to accomplish the first step, only listing Anakin's feats and calling Luke's crap based on nothing really, and then labeled me a troll for disagreeing with his shit logic. Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. it wasnt until Post-ROTJ where he spent time meditating and studing the old jedi teachings where he learned a lot from his former masters. And how exactly is Anakin's familiarity with blaster deflection, a couple of lightsaber forms, Force Lightning, and Force Drain going to help him against an exclusive Djem So user who possesses neither of those Force abilities? Compare movie and show feats, as those are official canon right now. Luke. Luke can easily perform a mind trick and is even capable to erase knowledge of himself from a target. La Famille Skywalker est une lignée d'humains sensible à la Force dont le premier membre connu est Shmi Skywalker. I'm sure he had more skill times potential as Anakin than as Vader (canon-wise; his feats in the EU show that he grew substantially more powerful as Vader, whereas, in Rebels, he got stalemated by Ahsoka Tano), and that he only lost to Obi-Wan because he was reckless and overconfident. 7:04. not focusing on one single style to fight against. Oh mah Gerd, Luke fights Vader who ragdolls Anikin! 3:25. Anakin has fought in Legends canon the likes of Ventress, Obi Wan, Shaak Ti, Barriss, Ahsoka, Dooku several times, and various Jedi Masters/Padwans in the Temple massacre. Sources have factually stated that they were evenly matched without regard to emotional states, so that's simply the fact. Environ neuf ans avant la bataille de Naboo, elle donna miraculeusement la vie à un petit garçon sensible à la Force qu'elle appela Anakin. Uses glass and metal as a whirlwind of shrapnel. how does fighting other lightsaber duelists make him more skilled? Il était également très bricoleur et servait de mécanicien à Watto, son maître Toydarien. It would make Anakin stronger than luke. If we take other sources into account, then we have Luke being equal to Darth Vader at this point, who apparently is much stronger than his former self. Anakin Skywalker:VS.Luke Skywalker: VERSIONS:Anakin Skywalker: Revenge Of The SithLuke Skywalker: Return Of The JediInformation:Both characters are mo Force wise, Anakin loses against movie Luke and Master Luke. At least until Luke went all out (force rage) on a holding back Vader and won. And the only thing Luke struggled with was his inner darkness. 5:23. although that suit made him PHYSICALLY strong, but weak in overall. Round 2 - Luke in his prime would annihilate Anakin, but I'm assuming this is Rebellion era Luke to make it fair. Just from a pure fencing perspective, it's hard to beat episode 3 in terms of feats. I've never claimed Luke would even win this, nor have I made a single argument for Luke, and outright refuted that me simply saying "Luke beat Vader so he beats Anakin" isn't any proof in itself, yet you twisted it into me using that as an argument, which I never did. Ferris Nakia. Personally, I see Anakin pulling this one out, due to his superior dueling skills. Just better as a fighter, faster, more powerful, and so on. Fun. Luke has poor dueling skills through ANH-ESB. Your only arguments for Anakin have been "better feats," and "greater experience." A un certain point de l'histoire galactique aux environs des Guerres Mandaloriennes qui faisait rage dans la galaxie, le futur Anakin Skywalker est apparu dans une vision de force du maître jedi Q'Anilia en tant que Dark Vador leSeigneur Sith qu'il allait devenir au cours de sa vie, avec la présence d'un jeune Padaw… I never ignored anything. Nope. Born to a slave on Tatooine through Darth Plagueis' manipulation of the Force, Anakin was gifted with unprecedented potential in the Force. Garçon esclave sur Tatooine, Anakin Skywalker ne rêvait que d'une chose : parcourir les étoiles et les découvrir toutes à bord d'un vaisseau spatial. 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